B+Ds*+γ and B+D*+γ as probes of Vub

Abstract
The decays B+Ds*+γ and B+D*+γ can be used for an extraction of |Vub|. When the b and c quarks are nearly degenerate, the rate for these modes can be determined in terms of other observed rates, namely BB¯ mixing and D*Dγ decay. To this end, we introduce a novel application of heavy quark and flavor symmetries. Although somewhat unrealistic, this limit provides us with a first estimate of these rates.