Abstract
We derive constraints for BV1V2 modes (V1,2=vector meson) that allow a model-independent quantitative assessment of the contributions from electroweak penguin diagrams and/or new physics. The interplay of direct CP with oscillation studies then may lead to the extraction of the angle α, using BK*ω(ρ) and Bρω(φ). Any reservation one may have can be explicitly verified in a model-independent way by assuming only isospin conservation. We also briefly mention how the method can be used to extract γ via Bs decays: BsK*ρ,K*K*.