Abstract
An attempt was made to excite the 4f electron spectrum of Ag II in the Schüler tube with helium. Failure is discussed assuming the excitation process Ag normal atom+He+. Some little extension was made to the lower spectrum. The Schüler tube was also used to extend the 4d86s and 5d configurations of Pd II. About forty terms were added. A complete list of lines arising from high levels is given.

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